Orion SpaceProbe 130ST Equatorial Reflector Telescope by Orion
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Digital camera reviews of Orion SpaceProbe 130ST Equatorial Reflector Telescope
Digital camera Review: Nice performance and price for my first telescope
Summary: 4 Stars
This was my first telescope (if you don't count a cheapy refractor I got years ago as a kid-which is OK for the moon only) and I've really enjoyed it. Since it doesn't have a "go-to" mount, it takes some practice to learn to use, aim, and find with the equatorial mount (especially to find and aim as everything you see in the scope and finder is an inverted image). Finding dimmer magnitude objects is more challenging than I thought it would be (there's a whole bunch more objects than you think even through the finder scope!); trying to find Uranus took me some time and a lot of sky to chart consulting.
That said, the quality has been excellent and Jupiter is a great site and already has me thinking of what I might get for a future upgrade. I recommend buying a good quality 6-8 element 6mm eyepiece to increase the magnification (x217 w/ a 2x Barlow lens). This gets it closer to the "useful" max of x260. Overall, good value for the money, but if you don't want to spend a bunch of time hunting for objects (some might say this is part of the fun), I might suggest spending a bit more and get a "Go-to" scope - like the very similar Orion Starseeker 130- but this one doesn't have as good eyepieces included, so budget even more that!
Digital camera Review: Orion telescope 130st eq
Summary: 5 Stars
This telescope is quite fun for a newby, but definately should get more lenses. I recomend getting a barlow lense, i just bought a 3x and will review the difference when i recieve it. i also got the moon filter which i recommend for close ups on the moon. with the two lenses included you can get semi close to the moon from the 25 mm and even closer with 10mm, but still when looking the moon's edges are still fully in view with the 10mm, so not too close. i might have seen jupiter since in my area it's out in september. but also very far away and hard to make out. the software is not windows 7 compatable as far as i can tell, i installed with xp pack 3 on windows 7 and didn't not work, so i put it on a xp computer and works like a charm.Digital camera Review: Very Nice Telescope!
Summary: 5 Stars
O.K. so I have had this scope for about 3 weeks now and all I have to say is WOW. First, with the pros:
1. It has a rock-solid mount (however the scope is a little heavy with the counterweight)
2. The generous 130 mm mirror really takes observation to a new level
3. It has a setting circle (however, I haven't really gotten around to using it yet)
4. I received this scope within a week (sweet indeed!)
5. The 2 eyepieces supplied are of good quality
The Cons (and they are not a big deal at all)
1. It takes awhile to get used to an equatorial mount (at least for me it does)
2. I was confused with the manual on orienting the telescope correctly (not really an issue because I usually do not polar align the scope, see note below)
3. The right ascension (R. A.) fine control cable I received was too short (I took it off and now use the side metal gear)
Some of the things I have seen so far include the Pleiades, the Double Cluster, Jupiter (at 130X and great seeing conditions, Jupiter's cloud belts look amazing), Venus, and the Moon. The crown jewel,though, was looking at Orion's Nebula. I could make out fine detail in it's nebulosity; so awesome!
I would definitely suggest getting at least a 2X Barlow lens (although the one I got had some dust on the lens, I cleaned it off very carefully and it works like a charm.) Included with the scope is a 25 mm and 10 mm eyepiece, which with the Barlow lens will give you magnifications of 52 and 130 respectively. 130X does not seem much but it's plenty for me (although a little higher magnification would be nice for planet viewing.)
I also got a 13% light transmission moon filter which works nice for details on the surface of the moon.
I believe this scope can have a tracking motor (for R. A.) attached to it for following objects in the sky. This would be very handy for anyone dabbling in astrophotography.
The first telescope I owned was a cheap plastic refractor for ~100 bucks. It did not perform very well but luckily I didn't get discouraged and just worked with what I had. The second scope I acquired was very nice but it used the GoTo motors that just drained batteries! Also, in my opinion, half the fun was lost due to automatic slewing to whatever was up that night. This scope is great however. I believe it to be the perfect portable size (as opposed to a large scope that has to be dismantled or a permanently mounted scope.) With this scope I am usually viewing within minutes. :)
Note: I personally like having the eyepiece at eye level when I am viewing; it's the most comfortable to me. However, when slewing the scope in all 4 cardinal directions the eyepiece changes its location inconveniently. I just rotate the tube to accommodate my viewing height. I have to be careful though to keep the tube balanced with the counterweight. I was wondering if they have something to lock the tube into and then turn it somehow on its axis without it sliding.
All in all I think this is a great scope for a great price. Overall I am very pleased with the craftsmanship and I plan on doing business with these folks again.
Digital camera Review: Wonderful scope with options to grow into for beginner
Summary: 5 Stars
After much debate on purchasing this scope ( a Newtonian Reflector on a Equatorial Mount with 130mm aperture ) or a Orion SkyQuest XT8 Classic Dobsonian Telescope, I went with this scope for a couple of reasons.
1. This scope is supposedly ( more on this later ) more portable then the 8" tube and base that I would have received. I have small two door car and would not have been able to fit the tub in the trunk and only in the passenger seat.
2. This scope is on a Equatorial Mount which would be needed if you wished to take long exposure AstroPhotography or wanted to have a the telescope track objects in the sky without having to continually adjust.
3. It provided a very bright telescope ( f/5 ) with a wide field of view which was recommend to me to be better for a beginner.
4. The mount could later be upgraded to attach a motor to automatically track objects. Again a plus for taking photos or if you have people over and would like it to stay centered on the object. I was amazed at how quickly objects will move out of view, even a few minutes and your object will disappear.
5. This scope does a little bit of everything well enough and can let me grow or dabble into different areas without having to purchase another scope or added features. At most, you would need two accessories. A Orion Shorty 1.25" 2x Barlow Lens to help with magnification ( The long tube version of this scope Orion SpaceProbe 130 EQ Reflector has a longer focal point as well as the Dobsonian reflectors which gets your more magnification for the same eyepeice) and a camera mount/accessories for taking photos.
This is my very first telescope and I will give you my opinion in each area of the product as well as issues I ran into as a beginner.
PACKAGING:
The scope arrived very well packed with many empty boxes inside the package to serve as cushion for the telescope and parts. It is a single box that is about four feet long and about 50 lbs. Unpacking may take a bit to carefully set up the parts for assembly.
INCLUDED ITEMS:
It comes with a manual, Orion's starry night software which I found helpful as beginner ( also notifies you of any upcoming events that you may want to watch) , tools for assembly of the telescope ( no hex wrench for collimation i.e. adjusting the mirrors ), collmination cap, and two eye pieces. A 10mm for 65x and a 25mm for 26x magnification.
ASSEMBLY:
The instructions list that this should take 30 minutes. I agree if I had to do this a second time and I could probably do it in 15 by the second or third time. However, as a beginner with no prior experience, expect an hour to 1 1/2 hour to assemble. The instructions are good but a bit hazy and unclear during certain steps for a beginner. This is due to the large area of controls, gears, and levers on the mount itself that can seem a bit over bearing at first before you are familiarized with the controls. It would be helpful to have smaller diagrams between steps showing exact controls or parts to move. You may have to re-read the steps a few time and continue to consult the single diagram for reference.
Order of Assembly:
1. Mount tripods to Mount ( Mount is heavy! )
2. Add and assembly accessory tray
3. Thread and add counterweight to mount ( Be very careful )
4. Add ring mounts ( will hold the telescope tube or OTA ) to mount. Remember to add the correct one to the correct side
5. Carefully set tube in ring mounts and tighten.
6. Adjust balance of telescope in both axis
7. Add slow control knobs to worm gears
Notes about assembly:
I ran into issues at first after installing the counter weight. I was under the impression that the locking bolts to secure the mount at a particular angle would hold the mount in place with the counterweight. No matter how tight you press the weight will force the mount down. I assumed something was broken but luckily I figured out that the latitude adjustment bolt needed to be set first. This bolt limits how low the mount will go. In my case, with the bolt not set the counterweight would flop down and hit the tripod legs. Setting this bolt to 30-40 degrees stops it from BENDING lower and the counterweight stays still now.
Second issue I had was mounting the tube rings on the wrong side. There is one right with a small metal wheel on top to be used for taking photos with a camera. That ring should be toward the FRONT of the telescope WHICH IS where the SLOW MOTION CONTROL for Declination is! This means the control knob ALSO points towards the front of the telescope.
COLLIMATION:
I used the included cap ( place over the focuser or eyepiece tube on the telescope ) to check if the mirrors were aligned. I looked through and it looked pretty close to me at first and I wanted to get out and test it. You should check it after receiving it as some of it may be off. Mine was as I realized later however it was close enough to still see brilliant images the first night. I corrected it today and after over an hour of the learning process I have mine aligned well and it did seem that the moon was sharper then the day before. This is a maintenance process that you have to do on these types of scopes. The first time, it's tough. If I had to do it again now I could do it in about 5-10 minutes or less.
Here are some of the mistakes a beginner like me made that caused confusion:
When you use the collimation cap, you are supposed to see all these "rings" and reflections of the mirrors. There are only two things you are going to adjust, the secondary mirror and the primary mirror ( the big one at the back of the tube). The secondary mirror is the tricky one. Basically, you look down the focuser and with the telescope parallel to the horizon ( in case you drop a screw or tool and don't' want it falling onto the mirror and breaking it! ) you look through and see if the dark black ring around the center is , well centered. If not you start by using a Philips screw to adjust on the front of the scope. There is a cross at the front and only one Phillips head screw in the center to modify. This Moves the mirror toward the back of the tube or toward the front. This just aligns it so that when you look through you are seeing the whole image of the secondary mirror through the focuser. You may rotate it if it's at an angle but only touch the stub, not the mirror itself. Then, you can use a 2mm Allen wrench to adjust the three screws to adjust the tilt to make that dark black ring in the center. There will be a ring shaped mark that you will see. don't worry about getting that centered yet, only the dark ring around it. Once that is done, you unscrew three screws at the back to take off a cover and then find 6 screws to adjust the back mirror. This is trial and error as well but you just have to move either of the screws a little bit and it will cause the ring mark to move and center with the dark dot directly in the center. This "dot" is the hole that you are looking through that you will see in the mirror reflection.
USING THE TELESCOPE
Finally, actually using the telescope is not so bad but you will have to get used to moving it around a equatorial mount. It does not move left to right and up and down. It moves in "arcs" that match the movement of the Earth. For the first night, I just moved the telescope around and moved it into position of the moon without polar aligning the mount. Since this was a quick test, I didn't care about that just yet. All the controls moved well and smoothly. I did have to tighten the RA and Dec knobs well to make sure no movement happened, though if you give it a hard nudge or rested your hand on the tube you could accidentally move it slightly. The scope is a bit sensitive to movement. The tripod base was sturdy but once you got to the tube you could tap it and it would bounce slightly and then stabilize. I feel this is normal for any mount in this price range of this type as I tested from tripod off tapping everywhere to see where I could make adjustments to make it more sturdy. All the pieces are heavy and solid, and I think once it gets to the tube itself there is some play in movement just because the telescope is a rolled metal tube.
Adding and taking off eyepieces is fairly easy. Simply loosen two screws pop into place. The focuser worked well. Some people complain that it is plastic, but it does not make it work poorly because of it. It was very smooth focusing and also held my DSLR camera with the Orion 1.25" Universal Camera Adapter in place fine.
IMAGE QUALITY
Fantastic. I had my neighbors over and we were all very impressed with shots of the moon. Pictures would not do it justice to how sharp and clear the images were. I also later that night pointed the telescope at Jupiter and with the 2x barlow lens and 10mm eyepiece could see Jupiter and all four moons. I was very impressed. The image was tiny in the eyepiece but you could see them clearly. I have purchased a 5mm eyepiece for higher magnification ( 130x base and 260x with a 2x barlow ).
OVERALL QUALITY
Everything is packaged well, seems of decent heft and weight, and is relatively good quality. I only found maybe a few parts that felt "cheap" but really, everything worked well and didn't degrade it from performing properly. I think for the price that this sells for I got good product.
SUMMARY
This telescope is wonderful and is versatile. It is a bright scope with a wide field of view. It is on a equatorial mount which if you plan on growing into the hobby will want to learn how to use. If you want to try AstroPhotography you have everything basically ready to start other than a mount for your camera. You can adjust the magnification to get very high power with a simple eyepiece upgrade to match other longer focal length scopes. It IS portable, if you take the tube and tripod/mount/counterweight apart before traveling. For me I will be able to fit each piece into my tight spaces and still have someone in the passenger seat. For those with larger vehicles, the Dobsonian telescopes might be more portable. Overall this is a well made scope with options to grow into and can give you some flexibility. My number one reason for buying this over a Orion xt8 is that I could learn and work with a little bit of everything in this new hobby.
Digital camera Review: jump to the moon
Summary: 5 Stars
my husband spent about a week deciding on the perfect scope and looking at ALL types, he decided on the orion. it is FANTASTIC!!!!! he is really enjoying seeing everything there is to see. yes, if you buy this, you too will be outside.
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